Stream and Sea

Klein Jakkalsies Fly Tying Workshop with Gordon van der Spuy
2023-11-04 10:00 - 17:30 UTC | Zwartkop Country Club, Cnr. Old Johannesburg &, Hans Strijdom Dr, Garsfontein, Pretoria, Gauteng, 0081, South Africa
The Feather Mechanic in conjunction with The Transvaal Fly Tyers Guild and the Jacaranda Fly Fishing Club presents Klein Jakkalsies
This fly tying workshop, presented by Gordon van der Spuy (aka the Feather Mechanic), focuses on those tiny details (klein jakkalsies) in fly tying that often get overlooked. Small details make a big difference but in many instances, tiers aren’t aware of them. The path the fly tying enlightenment lies in understanding the logic behind what you’re doing when you are tying a fly.
Aspects covered during the workshop include:

The importance of thread selection and thread control
Establishing wraps
Conventional and unconventional wraps
Thread toe=rque and how it affects you
How materials influence the way you work with them
The design principles of tying

This workshop will not teach you how to tie “10 killer patterns”. Through Gordon’s expertise and proven methods, he will give you the tools to understand why those patterns are effective and to incorporate this newly gained knowledge in whatever pattern you’re tying. The idea is to get people thinking and not just following.
During the event, there will also be a screening of local fly tying films.
The workshop costs R200 per person and includes the following:

Boerewors roll
R50 fly tying material voucher

Advanced Casting Clinic Distance and Double-Haul - 18 November 2023
2023-11-18 09:00 - 13:00 UTC | Somerset College, Bredell Road, Somerset West, Western Cape, 7130, South Africa
We have teamed up with one of our good friends, Andy van der Werff, to bring you this course on distance and the double-hail. Apart from being a good companion on the water and next to the campfire, Andy is certified as a casting instructor by the International Federation of Fly Fishers. If you’d like to learn more about Andy, be sure to check out his Fly Casting Coach website.
This course is aimed at the fly angler who has the basic fly cast under control, but wants to add distance and line speed to their casting tool box. Yes, we know that distance and reach isn’t always the most important, but if you can double-haul properly and are able to get good distance, you’ll be able to reach “normal” fishing distances with less false casts and hence catch more fish.
This is a highly personalised and comprehensive course that will take you to the next level in fly-casting and improve your fishing results.
All attendees should bring the following along:

Your normal/favourite fly-fishing rod, the one you are most comfortable with, and if you have a second rod of 1 to 2 weights up or down, bring that too. Try and stay in the 4 to 7 weight range.
Matching reel and matching floating fly line. (A bright colour line is preferred but not essential)
Tapered leaders (0x or 1x) of around 9ft long. It will give you the most consistent turnover results. I can supply on the day at an additional cost if required
Sunscreen
Hat
Sunglasses
Water

A Not Too Steady Flow of Mayflies - Cape Town
2023-11-20 18:30 - 22:00 UTC | Fresnaye Sports Club, 15 Ave St Bartholomew, Sea Point, Cape Town, Western Cape, 8005, South Africa
Join Håvard, Rolf, and Markus for a dry fly fishing appreciation evening at the Fresnaye Sports Club on Monday, 20 November 2023.
An unveiling of Rolf Nylinder’s latest film about the Scandinavian mountain rivers and their trout and arctic char. The Expedition Leader, Håvard Stubo will share all the insider tips on how to catch those elusive brown trout and arctic char in Northern Scandinavia, and he’ll spill all his dry fly secrets in his lecture, with plenty of tricks that will work for trout fishing anywhere. They will talk about relevant destinations, hatches, fish species and techniques. They will touch upon other cool fishing opportunities in the area, such as salmon fishing, pike fishing and saltwater fishing, and they will also do a Q&A towards the end.
So, bring your fishing buddies!
Event includes:

Burger & chips
A Beer

Ticket sales close on Sunday, 19 November, at 20:00.
Learn more about Håvard, Rolf, and Markus below:
Jazz & Fly Fishing
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A Not Too Steady Flow of Mayflies - Johannesburg
2023-11-26 18:30 - 22:00 UTC | Gilroys Brewery, Achter Rd, Paulshof, Johannesburg, Gauteng, 2157, South Africa
Join Håvard, Rolf, and Markus for a dry fly fishing appreciation evening at Gilroy’s Brewery on Sunday, 26 November 2023!
An unveiling of Rolf Nylinder’s latest film about the Scandinavian mountain rivers and their trout and arctic char. The Expedition Leader, Håvard Stubo will share all the insider tips on how to catch those elusive brown trout and arctic char in Northern Scandinavia, and he’ll spill all his dry fly secrets in his lecture, with plenty of tricks that will work for trout fishing anywhere. They will talk about relevant destinations, hatches, fish species and techniques. They will touch upon other cool fishing opportunities in the area, such as salmon fishing, pike fishing and saltwater fishing, and they will also do a Q&A towards the end.
So, bring your fishing buddies!
Event includes:

Burger & chips
A Beer

Ticket sales close on Saturday, 25 November 2023.
Learn more about Håvard, Rolf, and Markus below:
Jazz & Fly Fishing
lemmelkaffe

Makhangoa Community Camp - Sight Fishing Heaven
2024-01-04 - 2024-01-08 | Western Cape
Join us for our Stream and Sea hosted trip to the sight fishing heaven that is the Bokong River from 4 to 8 January 2024. The sight fishing during this week is going to be on fire!
To find out more about this incredible trip we have lined up, check out the trip details page for more information and pricing.

Social Tying Evening - Local Reef Species with Conrad Botes
2024-01-29 18:00 - 22:00 UTC | Fresnaye Sports Club, 15 Ave St Bartholomew, Sea Point, Cape Town, Western Cape, 8005, South Africa
Join us on Monday, 29 January, at 6 pm at the Fresnaye Sports Club for our first Social Tying Evening for 2024. These social events are aimed at building the fly-tying and fishing community and creating a space where we can all learn from one another. If you’ve always wanted to give fly fishing and tying a go, our social tying events are the place to be.
For this month’s event, fly fishing guru Conrad Botes will be joining us to share one of his favourite patterns for local reef species like Blacktail. He’ll also cover typical conditions and structures to fish and what line and leader to use. Our coastline offers great opportunities to target these reef species and offers great fly fishing opportunities.
This is a tie-along event, so please bring your vice, tools, and thread along. We’ll cover the rest of the materials. If you don’t have a vice and want to give fly tying a go, please reach out to us and we’ll sort you out.
There will also be a short casting course by the one and only Andy van der Werff, which will end with a casting competition.
Booking is essential and costs R250, which includes the following:

All the fly tying material for the flies, including extra to practice the pattern at home
A boerewors roll and chips
A beer
Entry into the evening’s raffle

There’s also a non-tying option that costs R200, which includes the following:

A boerewors roll and chips
A beer
Entry to the evening’s raffle

Bookings close on Monday, 29 January, at 8 am.
Why do we do online bookings?
Some of you might wonder why we do online bookings, and it’s a great question. Here are the reasons:

It helps us prepare better if we know exactly how many attendees there will be. We pre-pack all the materials and and want to ensure that each person receives their own fly tying pack.
We can manage the chow a lot better
Probably the main perk for you as a guest to one of our events is that you qualify for a 10% discount on any pre-orders. That means we send you a discount coupon that can be used on our shop prior to the event. Your order will be waiting at the event with your fly tying materials.

Stream and Sea Shop Opening
2024-05-25 08:00 - 14:00 UTC | The Old Tannery, The Old Tannery, Wellington, Western Cape, 7655, South Africa
Join us on 25 May from 8 am onwards for our shop opening event at The Old Tannery, Wellington. Thanks to your ongoing support we’ve gone from strength to strength and have opened our first retail store. To celebrate this mammoth occasion, we’re holding a shop opening event.
Drop in, come say “Howzit”, and have a beer with us.
Event Detail:

Fly tying demonstrations – feel free to bring your vice to tie along
Free beer and cold drinks (within reason)
Huge in-store specials with up to 30% off

Kleinood Fly Fishing Event - Dragons and Wine
2024-06-08 17:00 - 19:00 UTC | Kleinood Wine Estate, Blaauwklippen Rd, Stellenbosch, Western Cape, 7600, South Africa
We’re very excited to bring you a one-of-a-kind fly fishing event hosted at the incredible Kleinood Wine Estate. This exclusive event brings together two of our favourite things – fly fishing and astonishingly good wine.
Dragonfly larvae are one of the main food sources for many fish species, especially stillwater trout. During the Dragons and Wine festival, we’ll show you how to tie a very effective imitation of a a dragonfly larvae, as well as how to fish it effectively.
Highlights of the evening

Feedback from Stream and Sea’s latest Eastern Cape small streams trip
Learn how to tie a simple Dragonfly imitation. Bring your tying vices, tools and light – we’ll take care of the fly tying materials. If you don’t have a vice or tools and you would like to give fly tying a try – please reach out and we’ll sort you out.
Stillwater fishing tactics
Drinks: “Kleinood Experience” tasting menu and coffee
Food: Kleinood’s opulent seasonal platters, spilling over with charcuterie, cheeses, pickles and preserves, are made to share between two. Come hungry!

Booking is essential and closes on Tuesday, 4 June 2024.

Cape Streams Opskop - Pre-season Prep Session
2024-08-17 10:00 - 15:00 UTC | The Old Tannery, The Old Tannery, Wellington, Western Cape, 7655, South Africa
Join us on Saturday, 17 August 2024, from 10am at our shop in Wellington for our Cape Streams Opskop event. This event is aimed to help you prepare for the upcoming season. Bring your small stream fishing gear and your vice and come enjoy a day at our shop.
Key highlights

Tying session by Gordon van der Spuy where the man himself shows you all the fine details to tie your own Cape Streams flies
One of the most important aspects in small stream fly fishing is your leader setup. Bring your rig to the shop and we will help you set up your leader, and show you the best ways to connect leader to fly line
Protea angler, Barry Ubsdell, shares his knowledge and feedback from their recent World Championship
Casting demo and competition
We’ll have an array of sale items on the day to help you stock up before the streams open
There will be boeries, beer, and non-alcoholic drinks for sale

The Five Essentials of Fly Casting Clinic - 31 August 2024
2024-08-31 10:00 - 13:00 UTC | Somerset College, Bredell Road, Somerset West, Western Cape, 7130, South Africa
We have teamed up with one of our good friends, Andy van der Werff, to bring you a course on The Five Essentials of Good Fly Casting. Apart from being a good companion on the water and next to the campfire, Andy is certified as a casting instructor by the International Federation of Fly Fishers. If you’d like to learn more about Andy, be sure to check out his Fly Casting Coach website.
This course is aimed at all fly anglers, from beginners to more advanced casters, who want to up their casting performance and, so doing, become more efficient fly anglers. This is a highly personalised and comprehensive course that will take you to the next level in fly-casting and improve your fishing results.
All attendees should bring the following along:

Your normal/favourite fly-fishing rod, the one you are most comfortable with, and if you have a second rod of 1 to 2 weights up or down, bring that too. Try and stay in the 4 to 7 weight range.
Matching reel and matching floating fly line. (A bright colour line is preferred but not essential)
Tapered leaders (0x or 1x) of around 9ft long. It will give you the most consistent turnover results. I can supply on the day at an additional cost if required
Sunscreen
Hat
Sunglasses
Water

Somerset West Trout and Stout Club 19 September Meeting
2024-09-19 19:00 - 22:00 UTC | Old Bridge Restaurant & Bar, TPT Park, Corner of Gordon & Main Road, Somerset West, Western Cape, 7130, South Africa
The inaugural Somerset West Trout and Stout Club event will be held on Thursday, 19 September at 7pm at the Old Bridge Tavern, Somerset West.
The Trout and Stout Club is aimed at bringing together the local fly fishing and tying community and is the place to be to elevate your fly tying skill set.
The first event will be presented by Gordon van der Spuy and sponsored by Stream and Sea.
R50 gets you in and includes a fly tying material pack.
Food and beer available at the venue.

Advanced Casting Clinic Distance and Double Haul - 28 September 2024
2024-09-28 10:00 - 13:00 UTC | Somerset College, Bredell Road, Somerset West, Western Cape, 7130, South Africa

Somerset West Trout and Stout Club 5 November 2024 Meeting
2024-11-05 19:00 (Europe/Helsinki) | Western Cape
The Somerset West Trout and Stout Club meeting will be held on Tuesday, 5 November at 7pm in Somerset West. We will confirm the venue once it has been arranged.
The Trout and Stout Club is aimed at bringing together the local fly fishing and tying community and is the place to be to elevate your fly tying skill set.
The first event will be presented by Gordon van der Spuy and sponsored by Stream and Sea.
R50 gets you in and includes a fly tying material pack.
Food and beer available at the venue.

Somerset West Trout and Stout Club 28 November 2024 Meeting
2024-11-28 19:00 - 22:00 UTC | Western Cape
The next Somerset West Trout and Stout Club meeting will be held on Thursday, 28 November at 7pm in Somerset West. We will confirm the venue once it has been arranged.
The Trout and Stout Club is aimed at bringing together the local fly fishing and tying community and is the place to be to elevate your fly tying skill set.
The event costs R50.
Food and beer available at the venue.

Learn How to Fish the Cape Streams
2024-11-30 08:30 - 17:00 UTC | Du Toit’s Kloof Lodge, N1 Hwy & Dutoits Kloof Pass, Paarl, Western Cape, 6849, South Africa
Stream and Sea is proud to work together with the Somerset West Trout and Stout Club and Gordon van der Spuy to bring you a clinic dedicated to learn how to fish the Cape Streams. This clinic is aimed at both the novice and experienced angler who would like to get started on our home waters.
This clinic feeds out of the Fly Tying Event held on 28 November and, therefore, would be greatly beneficial if you join us for that event too.
What You’ll Learn at the Clinic
This clinic will mean different things to anglers of different experience levels. We encourage anglers of all skill levels to join us. Some of the topics covered will be:

Ideal gear and setups that work on the Cape Streams
Leaders
Entomology and fly selection
How to approach a run
How to read water
Good catch and release principles
How to cast a dry fly

There are tons of small tips and tricks that will come out during the day that are impossible to list here. If there are specific things you would want to learn, please note them down and bring them along.
What is Included

Tuition for the day
Lunch and a beer

What Do You Need for the Clinic

It would be ideal if you can join us on the Thursday before the clinic for the Fly Tying Evening. Here we will discuss a fly pattern and also what we’re planning for the Saturday’s clinic
To gain access to the clinic, you will need to have tied 12 flies of your own. Bring them along as you’ll be fishing with them
A small stream fly rod between 2 and 4wt with a floating line. If you don’t have a rod like this, please give us a shout and we’ll be here to help you out
Cape Piscatorial Society Membership – we can assist with this if required. The day fee is R330 per person

To ensure your safety and to get the most out of the day, the following is required:

Wading boots
If you get cold easily, a pair of waders
If you prefer wet-wading, long trousers or long tights are essential
Long-sleeve shirt
Buff
Hat or cap
Polarized sunglasses
Sunblock
Waterproof backpack
Rain jacket
Fly rod, reel and line as mentioned above
At least 12 of your own flies as mentioned above
Fly floatant
12-14ft Tapered leaders with tip diameter of 5X or 6X
Tippet rings
Tippet material 6X and 7X
Wading jacket or vest with your accessories

Somerset West Trout and Stout Club 28 January 2025 Meeting
2025-01-28 19:00 - 22:00 UTC | Western Cape
The next Somerset West Trout and Stout Club meeting will be held on Thursday, 28 November at 7pm in Somerset West. We will confirm the venue once it has been arranged.
The Trout and Stout Club is aimed at bringing together the local fly fishing and tying community and is the place to be to elevate your fly tying skill set.
The event is free but you need to book a ticket to help us prepare.
Food and beer available at the venue.

Stream and Sea Paarl Shop Opening Event
2025-02-19 18:00 - 21:00 UTC | Stream and Sea Paarl, Stream and Sea, Paarl, Western Cape, 7655, South Africa
Join us on Wednesday, 19 February 2025, at 6pm for our opening event at our new location. Everyone is welcome even if you’ve never fly fished before or just started.
What can you expect for the evening:

Bring your vice along and learn how to tie some great nymphs for trout an yellowfish
Exclusive gear discounts that are only going to be available in store
Beer and cold drinks for sale
Boerewors rolls for sale

Somerset West Trout and Stout Event 26 February 2025
2025-02-26 19:00 - 21:00 UTC | Erinvale Golf Estate Restaurant, Erinvale Golf Estate, Somerset West, Western Cape, 7130, South Africa
Join the next Somerset West Trout and Stout Event on Wednesday, 26 February, at 7pm at Erinvale Golf Club in Somerset West. For this event, Gordon will be showing you how to tie a small baitfish imitation that works well on small streams and stillwaters. Bring your vice and tying tools along. Booking is essential.
Each person who books in advance will receive box of essentials to tie a couple of these baitfish flies.

Guide Flies and Tactics 12 March 2025
2025-03-12 18:00 - 21:00 UTC | Stream and Sea Paarl, Stream and Sea, Paarl, Western Cape, 7655, South Africa
Join us on Wednesday, 12 March, at 6pm at our shop in Paarl for the first of our Guide Flies and Tactics Events. For this event we are focusing on low-water flies and tactics and will show you a couple of easy to tie flies that catch fish.
This is a tie along event, so please bring along your vice and tools. If you’ve always wanted to start tying flies or get involved with fly fishing, please join us too as this is the best place to learn.

Somerset West Trout and Stout Event 26 March 2025
2025-03-26 19:00 - 21:00 UTC | Erinvale Golf Estate Restaurant, Erinvale Golf Estate, Somerset West, Western Cape, 7130, South Africa
Join the next Somerset West Trout and Stout Event on Wednesday, 26 March, at 7pm at Erinvale Golf Club in Somerset West. For this event, Gordon will be showing you how to tie his famous Skinny Damsel. There are a lot of fly tying fundamentals that will be covered during the event. Bring your vice and tying tools along.
Each person who books in advance by purchasing a ticket will receive box of essentials to tie a couple of these baitfish flies. Booking closes on Wednesday, 26 March, at 8am.

Fly Fishing Film Tour 24 April 2025 Durban
2025-04-24 19:00 - 21:00 UTC | Suncoast Cine Centre Durban, Suncoast Blvrd, Marine Parade,,, Durban, Kwazulu-Natal, 4001, South Africa
The Fly Fishing Film Tour 2025 is back due to popular demand with a second round of events.
Buy your tickets for Durban, 24 April 2025, at 7:00pm using this link: https://buy.stripe.com/bIYeZ15mMgJPd8c183

Fly Fishing Film Tour 24 April 2025 Johannesburg
2025-04-24 19:00 - 21:00 UTC | Cine Centre Killarney Johannesburg, Killarney Mall, 60 Riviera Rd, Killarney, Johannesburg, Gauteng, 2193, South Africa
The Fly Fishing Film Tour 2025 is back due to popular demand with a second round of events.
Buy your tickets for Johannesburg, 24 April 2025, at 7:00pm using this link: https://buy.stripe.com/cN2eZ13eEfFL8RWdUQ

Fly Fishing Film Tour 24 April 2025 Cape Town
2025-04-24 20:30 - 22:00 UTC | The Labia Theatre Cape Town, 68 Orange St, Gardens, Cape Town, Western Cape, 8000, South Africa
The Fly Fishing Film Tour 2025 is back due to popular demand with a second round of events.
Buy your tickets for Cape Town, 24 April 2025, at 8:30pm using this link: https://buy.stripe.com/fZe3gj5mMdxDecgdUA

Somerset West Trout and Stout Club Event 20 May
2025-05-20 17:00 - 22:00 UTC | Erinvale Golf Estate Restaurant, Erinvale Golf Estate, Somerset West, Western Cape, 7130, South Africa
The next Somerset West Trout and Stout Club meeting will be held on Tuesday, 20 May at 5pm in Somerset West at Erinvale Estate.
The Trout and Stout Club is aimed at bringing together the local fly fishing and tying community and is the place to be to elevate your fly tying skill set.
R50 gets you in and includes a fly tying material pack.
Food and beer available at the venue.

Fly Tying Fundamentals Workshop – Dry Fly Focus 25 May
2025-05-25 09:00 - 11:00 UTC | Fingers Crossed Coffee Shop, 3 Levubu Road, Emmerentia, Gauteng, 2195, South Africa
Join us for a focused, hands-on workshop designed to build your fly tying skills around the art of dry flies. Whether you’re just starting out or looking to sharpen your technique, this session will cover three key dry fly methods:

Parachute Dry Flies – Learn to tie strong and stable posts for durable parachute flies.
Basic CDC Techniques – Discover simple, effective ways to work with CDC for light, high-floating patterns.

Elk & Deer Hair Wings – Understand how to handle elk and deer hair, use a hair stacker properly, and tie in wings with minimal but secure wraps.

Workshop Dates:

Sunday, 25 May | 9:00 AM – 11:00 AM (Limited to 6 participants for a more personal experience)
Tuesday, 27 May | 6:30 PM – 8:30 PM (Limited to 10 participants)

Cost: R250 per person – includes all materials (Please bring your own tying thread – all other materials will be provided)
Whether you’re prepping for your next trip or building your skills at the vise, this workshop will give you practical techniques and confidence in tying effective dry flies.
Booking is essential due to limited space.

Fly Tying Fundamentals Workshop – Dry Fly Focus 27 May
2025-05-27 18:30 - 20:30 UTC | Fingers Crossed Coffee Shop, 3 Levubu Road, Emmerentia, Gauteng, 2195, South Africa

Guide Ties and Tactics - Stillwater Edition 4 June
2025-06-04 18:00 - 20:00 UTC | Stream and Sea Paarl, Stream and Sea, Paarl, Western Cape, 7655, South Africa
Join us at our shop in Paarl for another Guide Ties and Tactics event where we’ll be covering all you need to know for the Stillwater season that’s upon us. From how to approach still waters, what lines to use, leader set-ups and pre riggers too flies and everything in-between. Bring your vices along and join in for a step by step tying demo of two must have fly patterns. Once the flies are tied we will be building leaders and setting up pre-riggers making sure you are prepped for your next Stillwater mission.
What we will cover

Approach
Setup
Tactics
Leaders and Flies

Cost: R80 per person – includes all materials, a pre-rigger and tippet (Please bring your own tying thread – all other materials will be provided).

Somerset West Trout and Stout Club Event 10 June
2025-06-10 17:00 - 20:30 UTC | Erinvale Golf Estate Restaurant, Erinvale Golf Estate, Somerset West, Western Cape, 7130, South Africa
Join us for the Somerset West Trout & Stout Club meeting on Tuesday, 10 June, from 5:00 PM at Erinvale Estate, Somerset West.
What’s On:
– 5:00 PM – Casting ClinicKick off early with a hands-on casting introduction by certified instructor Leslie Thiart. Bring your own rod & reel (floating line + tapered leader) and learn tips to tighten loops, improve accuracy, and add distance to your cast.
– 7:00 PM – Fly-Tying DemoJoin Gordon for a step-by-step tutorial on a simple yet deadly CDC Splitting Mayfly imitation.
Why Attend?
– Connect with local fly-fishing and tying enthusiasts
– Sharpen your casting and tying techniques
– Enjoy good company, great beer, and delicious food on-site
Details:
– When: Tuesday, 10 June | 5:00 PM start (tying from 7:00 PM)
– Where: Erinvale Estate, Somerset West
– Cost: R50 (includes a tying-material pack)
– Extras: Food & beer available for purchase
Come learn, tie, cast and raise a glass with the Somerset West Trout & Stout community. See you there!

Fly Fishing & Casting Clinic
2025-07-12 09:00 - 12:00, 2025-07-26 09:00 - 12:00 UTC | La Ferme
Fly Fishing & Casting Clinic at La Ferme Trout Farm – Presented by Stream and Sea
Join us for a focused, hands-on clinic designed to elevate your fly fishing skill set and improve your casting technique in a beautiful farm setting. Whether you’re a beginner or looking to refine your fundamentals, this clinic offers guided, practical instruction with an emphasis on essential fly fishing and casting techniques.
What You’ll Learn:Casting Fundamentals – Learn and refine your cast with focus on timing, loop control, and distance.Fishing Strategy – Understand basic fly fishing techniques, when and how to apply these techniques and the best way to approach a trout dam.Gear Setup & Tuning – Gain insights on line selection, leader configuration, knots and fly rigs.
Saturday, 12 July | 9:00 AM – 12:00 PM (Limited to 10 participants)Saturday, 26 July | 9:00 AM – 12:00 PM (Limited to 10 participants)
Cost: R650 per person – includes Day/Fishing Fee, cooldrink and boerie roll (please bring your own setup if you have one)
Whether you’re preparing for the next fishing trip or looking to boost your confidence on the water, this clinic is a practical step forward in your fly fishing journey.
Location: La Ferme Tout FarmBooking is essential – space is limited, so secure your spot early.
